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Synod emphasises compatibility of religion and science


Posted: February 12, 2010.

Print: BBC News

excerpt:

The Bishop of Southwark, the Right Reverend Dr Tom Butler, said “the average person’s view is that science has disproved religion”.

But he spoke of the scientific theory of dark matter, which he said involved “a lot of dark matter which we can’t even see, being propelled by forces we don’t understand”.

He added: “And they say that religion is all about faith.”

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1. bananapeel

It is ironic that the Church of England is now pushing the non-overlapping magistera formulation of separate non-conflicting realms for science and religion that only a generation ago was a peace offering from the accomodating atheist Stephen J. Gould.  To quote Virginia Slims: “We’ve come a long way, baby.”

posted on February 12, 2010
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2. MajorityofOne

I think this is progress of a sort.

Militant atheists? Is that the same as militant feminists? Anybody with a view different than yours, that is trying to affect change is “militant?” Then bring it on…

I’m also tired of the ‘quantum physics requires the same leap of faith’ nonsense. Just because YOU don’t understand something doesn’t mean everyone else doesn’t. Scientists are still working it out, working on it, solving the parts we don’t know, etc. so I don’t think anybody has thrown up their hands and said, “gee, this quantum physics stuff is hard, I’ll just BELIEVE” and then stopped trying to figure it out. GEEZ. When will this crap ever end?

posted on February 13, 2010
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are you claiming majority of one that you understand dark matter and dark energy?

go deep into your materialistic beliefs and you will find a self paradigm based on faith not absolutes.

the relgious folks are right where they need to be just as you in your materialistic beliefs are right where you need to be.

seek deep into your ignorance and you will find innocence.

or dont seek and that will be exactly where you need to be.

posted on February 13, 2010
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4. youcan'tbeserious

Philip Brown of Manchester, said: “Science can only explain how something was created; religion can explain why.”
I’m tired of this.  By what authority can religion say anything about why?  By the contradicting, immoral and verifiably untrue writings of people who lived thousands of years ago when very little was known about anything?

posted on February 14, 2010
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He added: “And they say that religion is all about faith.”

Isn’t it? The difference between science and religion is this: cosmologists admit that they don’t know much about dark matter and dark energy, and they use this lack of knowledge to inform the direction of scientific investigation. Theologians, with no greater knowledge of the way the universe works, don’t do this — they just make stuff up.

posted on February 15, 2010
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Researcher, go suck your thumb, will you?

posted on February 16, 2010
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The Bishop of Southwark would be advised to spend less time on science on which he apparently knows nothing, and more on explaining the bits of his religion that says things like this:
“Happy shall they be who take your little ones and dash them against the rock!” (Psalm 137:9)

posted on February 17, 2010
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researcher said, “go deep into your materialistic beliefs and you will find a self paradigm based on faith not absolutes.”

I agree with you, there are certain issues that *everyone* must take on faith (for example that universal laws are uniform.) Occam’s razor reminds to keep our faith claims to the bare minimum and the fact is, belief in the supernatural is superflous. It is a set of assumptions that add nothing to our explanatory powers.

posted on February 21, 2010
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9. deathmeastro

Wow! That’s good news! It is about time religion started accepting science as an equal. Religion can learn a lot from science, now it’s time for the scientist to start accepting the fact religion does not have to be an enemy. I believe religion and science are completely compatable, and helps keep a sense of spirituality, which most scientist lack completely. This is a strange “world” we live in, and from what I have experienced I know that anything and everything is possible, so until one can completely rule out the other through scientific method I think science and religion should look toward each other, and they will see that science and religion are much more compatible than everyone realized!

posted on February 21, 2010
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death, honestly, what can religion teach science?  Religion presumes a’ truth’ and science tries to find a truth.  Fundamentally different approaches.  Faith tells us nothing other than what we want to believe.  Science on the other hand has had a great deal of success in the past 500 years.  What has religion taught us?

posted on February 21, 2010
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Deathmeastro, perhaps you can tell me what you mean by ‘spirituality’.  if you mean a sense of wonder, then I have seldom come across a scientist without one.  If you mean some touchy-feely-good-guy-in-the-sky sense, then it is just as well that scientists are not spiritual.

posted on February 21, 2010
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