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Seriously, Aren’t Atheists Embarrassed by P.Z. Myers?

Moshe Averick
Posted: May 29, 2011.

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One of my mentors, Rabbi Yaakov Weinberg, (of blessed memory), made the following, rather sobering, observation about human nature: “Nobody ever allowed something as trivial as facts and logic to interfere with their agenda. If the facts and logic don’t fit, then the facts and logic will just have to fend for themselves.”...

Having said that, we are now ready to introduce one of the more zealous and outspoken (read: tiresome and obnoxious) advocates of the Darwinian/atheist worldview, P.Z. Myers. Dr. Myers is an associate professor of biology at the University of Minnesota-Morris, a satellite of the main state university, or as David Klinghoffer put it, “well known as the Harvard of Morris, Minnesota.” In a lecture at the Atheist International Alliance in 2009 (Burbank, Ca.) entitled Design vs. Chance, Myers administered, what he considered to be, a thorough thrashing of Intelligent Design theory.

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The most interesting thing about this is that the comments following the article are overwhelmingly against the author (a rabbi) and in favor of Meyers—and this is a *Jewish* newspaper!  Times have changed, for the better.

posted on May 29, 2011
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His own misrepresentation of Myers within the article is bad enough, but he really does it in a nasty way. You almost want to think he really believes what he says to be so wrong, but then to see commenter after commenter just rail the guy and point out his basic and obvious errors and he never backs down. It’s sad. I can’t think of anything that could make someone so resistant to reforming their own ideas than pure fear of being wrong. I could be wrong, of course…

posted on May 31, 2011
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Yes. The comments were extremely interesting! I loved it. The rabbi would not answer any of the questions…just calls people names and says PROVE ME WRONG over and over. He’s the embarassment! While PZ is a bit too sarcastic and nasty at times, I like him (and usually it’s when it is deserved). There is room for all kinds of voices in the atheist arsenal. The 4 horsemen are great and PZ makes it 5.

posted on June 1, 2011
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Re Mr. Averick:  Is the smugly arrogant personality a product of his sanctioned relationship with a deity or was it pre-existing and perhaps causative in seeking this privileged position?

Whatever, it cocoons him comfortably in ignorance.  Perhaps a little study on the topic of “complexity” as understood from a scientific perspective would
undermine the battlements of profound ignorance?

Far from being an embarrassment to anyone of intelligence, Dr. Myers is an intellectual and social hero who does not suffer fools gladly.

posted on June 1, 2011
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Irony: 

Lambasting a scientist for his arrogance with the subtext of advancing the agument for the existence of an invisible, imaginary friend in the sky who is an aggraindized version of yourself.

posted on June 2, 2011
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Thanks Mike.  Adroitly done.

posted on June 2, 2011
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I’m certainly not embarrassed.  Why would I be?  Dr. Myers makes a great argument and I really havent heard any real rebuttal from the author except a straightforward argument from incredulity mixed with a little childish name-calling including an unnecessary stab at a perfectly respectable university.

Of course, I am not really embarrassed by what anybody says except for myself.  Because the only one who speaks for me is me.  Mr Averick seems to subscribe to this common misconception that atheists are some kind of religious group and we speak for each other.  The only thing that atheists have in common is we all call BS on ancient cultural superstitions about invisible deities in the sky.  Beyond that we dont really speak for each other.

posted on June 2, 2011
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Perfect example of a “Black Knight”- check out Richard Dawkins’ website in the Discussions area for the example and phrase coinage.

posted on June 3, 2011
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