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Marriage Fight Turns to Religion

By JACOB GERSHMAN
Posted: May 15, 2011.

Print: Wall Street Journal

excerpt:

Senate Republicans who say they are undecided about their stance on gay marriage are pushing for more assurances of legal protections for Catholic charities and other religious institutions that refuse to recognize same-sex couples.

The Republican concerns suggest a shift in the debate toward the wording of legislation and the extent to which religious safeguards are explicitly spelled out in statute. The same questions about religious freedom have flared in other statehouses that ultimately adopted same-sex marriage laws with provisions to insulate religious groups and their services from legal exposure.

...Proposed marriage bills in Albany have stated that no clergyman or minister would be forced to solemnize a same-sex union. And New York’s human-rights law, which makes it illegal to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation with respect to housing and employment, includes an exemption to protect the “religious principles” of church-affiliated charities.

...“While we will always oppose redefining marriage, a key side issue is protecting our religious liberty and the religious liberty of individuals,” Dennis Poust, a spokesman for the New York State Catholic Conference, the policy arm of New York Catholic bishops.

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I fail to see how exemptions to protect “religious principles” are any more justifiable than those to protect the “principles” of the KKK w/r/t African Americans and Jews.

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If all it would take are some protections for religious charities to get gay marriage legalized, I’m totally for it.  I think one of the biggest fears of christians and chatholics is that if gay marriage were to be come legal, that they would be forced to solemnize a same-sex union.  So if we had to throw in some stupid wording just so they could stop being assholes and do the right thing….  so be it.

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Marriage? What’s that all about, why would anyone ever want to do it? Same sex or not.

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There are a lot of organisations that require a code of conduct to be maintained as a prerequisite for membership. Honestly, in principle, how is this any different?

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I have a libertarian view on this matter.  I really do think religious institutions (as ridiculous as I we find them) have the right to make their own internal rules on some level.  As much as we seek to secularize society, religions are religion.  Their nonsense is evident and the government doesn’t need to force them to play nice.  If anything, the followers need to secularize their religion instead.

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6. Huw Edwards

This is the old ‘no discrimination against discriminators’ argument. Personally, I am quite happy for religious organisations to choose to whom they provide religious ‘services’, but that should not extend to giving people a right to withhold any other publicly-provided service. Hence, no right to hotels, restaurants etc to refuse service. And no right to charities to discriminate.

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