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Group organizes to be ‘good without God’

By Matthew Hay Brown
Posted: December 3, 2009.
Published: December 3, 2009.

Print: The Baltimore Sun

excerpt:

“We are now reaching critical mass,” said Greg Epstein, the humanist chaplain at Harvard University and author of “Good Without God: What A Billion Nonreligious People Do Believe.”

...“We are reaching numbers and levels of awareness that suggest that we are owed a place at the table of discussion about issues of religion and ethics around the world. And we now need to step up to that table.”

“Humanists are never going to have a pope that will tell us what to do,” he said. “And no one, including myself, would want that. But if you have no organization, if you have no critical mass, no ability to come together in strength, then you have no voice.”

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1. bananapeel

That anonymous businessman from Philadelphia who is funding this deserves a Nobel Peace Prize.  I wonder who he is.

posted on December 3, 2009
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It’s great, absolutely great, to see someone with vision, and the means to act on it, who realizes that our future rests on science, reality, and reason rather than superstition.

Kudos to this “saint!”

posted on December 3, 2009
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Thank you for posting this on here. Hopefully, the people on this site will see the billboards as a positive thing, instead of most of the people who read it on The Sun. There are already some nasty comments on there. These people don’t even know me.

“You are NOT good without GOD! Without GOD you are filthy rags! Ladynyc (12/03/2009, 12:40 PM)”

posted on December 3, 2009
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I used to live near Baltimore and saw many religious billboards which were mostly pushing fearful messages on people so this is great to see this new billboard.

posted on December 3, 2009
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I wish that that Philadelphia businessman would start a non-profit do to this.  I would definitely contribute.  I wonder whether the Reason Project could move along these lines.

posted on December 3, 2009
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One critique. Couldn’t you be “non-religious” and still believe in God? Meaning, you do not follow any particular faith but still acquiesce to the idea of a Designer, or you do not follow any particular faith but leave open the possibility for a God theory? The article used the term “non-believers” and the organization used the term “non-religious”. As Sam Harris point out these are rather worthless terms (like “non-astrologer”).

Rather my point is “non-religious” does not necessary equal “Good WITHOUT God”. The semantics may be misleading to certain people. I would hate to see that organization lose recruits because the message was interpreted. Any thoughts?

That said, this is absolutely great and I welcome it in my neighborhood.

posted on December 4, 2009
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This is brilliant, and I’m delighted to see it’s happening in my hometown.

posted on December 5, 2009
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@ gcheng

I agree.  I would love to be able to contribute to this project.  I know you can contribute to FFRF’s bus ad campaign…

http://ffrf.org/donate/donate_bus.php

posted on December 6, 2009
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to gettingfree:  Thanks.  I will donate.

posted on December 8, 2009
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This is great.  Nonbelievers often take for granted their freedom, relief and clarity.  And believers often consider nonbelievers as unhappy or evil.  This is a great way to counter the incorrect assumptions and accusations of believers.  Keep it positive and clear!

posted on December 8, 2009
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“Good Without God: What A Billion Nonreligious People Do Believe.”

Like the sign on the side of buses that mentioned god this sign will only cause more people to reflect on the term god. It will have the opposite effect the atheists want.

At least this person had the good sense not to put on her sign love without god or consciousness without god or even awareness without god. Good tends to be in the mind of the beholder. The terrorist think they are doing good by killing others even doing god’s work for him or is it her? Hitler thought he was doing a lot of good for Germany.

History is full of stories of dictators doing good even republics doing good and millions die for their doing good. This sign shows the intellectualism that is abundant in atheism.

I noticed that some people want to send this person some donations. That sure sounds like religion to me. These people prove my point time after time again that atheism is a religion of sorts.

“Kudos to this “saint!”

How much more evidence do you need to see that atheism is a religion you even have your saints. The evidence is there right in front of you and you see not. And you think the religious see not. Mirror time for atheism.

“Humanists are never going to have a pope that will tell us what to do,”

I have seen little evidence that many Catholics pay much attention to the pope. Some do but a small percent. The last time I checked Italy had the smallest birth rate in Europe and this is not due to the rhythm method as the pope dictates.

But I agree in other parts of the world the pope has more influence on the religious masses. Pun intended.

What I did find in my research that most Catholics and Protestants know little to nothing about the history of their religion. They pretty much take it spoon fed, kind of like the atheists do with the scientists claims that turns science into scientism.

The atheists have a pope or popes of sorts every time one of their famous evangel writers and speakers writes a book it is a best seller. We humans need a king of sorts to look to and fantasize about.

I do have something in common with Dawkins we were both Vietnam War protestors in California. But I have learned since that most college students were against the war due to the draft. Since there is no draft the college students have been extremely quiet about our two unwinable wars for profits. But I have noticed on college campuses they love their cell phones but I doubt on these cell phones they are protesting these wars for profits.

posted on December 12, 2009
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Calling atheism a religion empties the word “religion” of all meaning. If an enthusiasm for a shared belief system makes that system a religion, then sociology is a religion. Birdwatching is a religion. Watching the food network is a form of worship. American Idol is really idolatry. (Well, okay, you might have a case with that last one).
  How can an outlook with no god, no priesthood, no rituals, no revelation, no churches, hymns, or festivals, nothing in common with any element of religion as commonly understood (and how else are words defined but by common understanding?) be called a religion? If atheism is a religion, everything is a religion. In that case, the word “religion” simply becomes a synonym for “a shared viewpoint,” and we need another word for a shared viewpoint that involves belief in gods and a morality and worship derived therefrom. Let’s keep the word “religion” to apply to those types of shared activity and call atheism something else.

posted on December 13, 2009
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I’ll do you one better, Kuranes. If an enthusiasm for a shared belief system makes that system a religion then the Britney Spears Fan Club is a religion. smile

posted on December 15, 2009
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