I wonder if Muslims can convert christians to Islam by using the Koran? There really is no shame with these people, is there?

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Convert or die!! Christians have mostly given up on that method but Muslims may be a little more willing to use violence to gain converts or intimidate enemies.

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Religion is a misrepresentation of myths.

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Repent and believe in the gospel of Christ.

The only way a person can become a believer of Jesus as the messiah is when they have been given a new heart upon the hearing of the gospel message. No tricks, methods or manipulation can bring salvation, only God’s saving grace through Christ.

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ejm, I guess God hates me.

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I’m guessing ejm missed the point of this site, which frankly doesn’t surprise me, seeing as their sort miss all kinds of points in reality.

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“repent and believe”

Such is the refrain of a shallow mind.

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That’s funny.  I’ve found that discrediting Jesus and, thus, the Quran is a great way to deconvert Muslims.

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You deconvert Muslims?  Whatever it is you should bottle it.

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G. Finknottle: “You deconvert Muslims?  Whatever it is you should bottle it.” ... patent it and sell it on e-bay. Hell, have a sale!

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Religion is all just a myth used for control, it breeds hatred, intolerance, oppression, and violence.  When will people wake up and realize this?

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freethinker513,
concerning religion, your correct. But as you can tell from these comments after my original one, there is much hatred and intolerance and bigotry. All of that is oppression. Yep.

The Father is revealed in Christ by the Holy Spirit dwelling in man who turns towards Him alone, not any religion or church. He is goodness, the rest is rot.

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If God is the epitome of goodness, then clearly we must all follow his example in his divine insanity.  Let us all have sons only to sacrifice them for no apparent reason, let us destroy our world and everything in it, yet save two of each, simply because most of the people are heretics in the eyes of some obscure religion.  Let us cause the maximum of agony for the littlest of sins, and finally let us credit a single entity, perhaps that puppy over there, for whatever good is done in the world, and suggest that we cannot know it’s mind when great suffering is inflicted.

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ejm, then calling a racist a racist would be a form of bigotry and hatred as well I guess.  You’re free to believe what you want, but we are free as well to say how stupid it is.  If you don’t think all forms of belief deserve respect( I assume you don’t), then you must clarify why yours does.  If you can’t then expect ridicule.

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pdskep, I don’t think you understand what the word bigotry /bigot means. Here’s some defs that fit what I read here perfectly…..
1.
stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one’s own.
2.
the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.

3. narrow-mindedness, bias, discrimination.

4. : a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Anyway, riducule has no way to harm me. Does it harm you?? True faith in Christ deserves no respect, who said it should? What’s your point and all others here?? That ‘those types’ are stupid and should expect riducule. Be proud I guess.

My point is to proclaim Christ for the beloved that are being seeked by the Lord.

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Well ejm, if what you’re saying is true and “the Lord” is seeking his beloved, well then he has a lot of work to do. He should know that by being ‘mysterious’ and displaying no evidence of His existence people -at least rational people- will show some skepticism, don’t you think? Why doesn’t God take a trip to this forlorn world, make an appearance, wield some magic powers like Jesus reportedly did 2000 years ago, and convince everyone! What’s your argument with respect to God’s clear self-concealment?

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EJM,

  I struggle with these ideas of bigotry. They are correct of course, but i am not sure if the word was designed for this type of debate.

  We must remember that we are toying with ideas here. Peoples passion for ideas naturally results in emotion. When someone critisises my driving it is hard not to take it as a personal issue, because it is an expression of how i am feeling and of my personality - but it is not bigotry just to critisise something i am passionate about.

  If a person believes that 2+2=5 or that the heart does not pump blood around the body then it is not bigotry to say they are incorrect. Even if we are being ‘intolerant’ of different ideas.

  Theism rests on a few philosophical and historical claims, all of which are investigatable. It also rests on faith, which is not.

  Faith and hope are open to anyone. You need not jump on the theological bandwagon to enjoy them. I have faith in my family as well as in love and i can still enjoy fantasy. Given the discredited status of natural theology little remains of the christian hypothesis other than faith, but remember that this is a shadow of its former glory where faith rested on more than its own laurels. Christians in the past had a much deeper experience and a much simpler and less controversial one simply because the hypothesis rested on stronger theology than today.

  In todays world there are better choices to deal with reality, even though there is still space between understanding to insert other ideas. The christian idea no longer has the required scientific or philosophical space it requires though, like trying to save a file to a hard disk when there is not enough memory left within all the fragmented blocks.

  Faith can be strong emotionally, but that does not mean that it is not empty physically or metaphysically. Like a full glass or beer that makes me feel better, but does not mean that my house is not about to be repossessed.

  Take the beer if you will, but just like an alcoholic about to lose their house, don’t expect others not to comment on it.

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