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Gordon Brown insists Britain is still Christian country

Martin Beckford
Posted: August 6, 2009.
Published: 07 Aug 2009.

Print: Telegraph.co.uk


The Prime Minister claimed the country’s values are still based on traditional religious teachings, and said it would be wrong if the devout were forced to keep their beliefs private.

His comments, made in an interview with a Christian radio station, come amid growing concern that public sector employees are being punished for acting according to their faith.

A community nurse was suspended without pay for two months after she offered to pray for an elderly woman, while two registrars claim they were forced out of their jobs for refusing to perform civil partnership ceremonies involving same-sex couples.

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nice photo lol

posted on August 9, 2009
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2. NewEnglandBob

Caption: The Prime Minister, just before his aneurysm popped.

posted on August 9, 2009
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Everyone is free to express their faith in public. We only have problems with people not doing their jobs right because of their unfounded convictions, hurting or discriminating against others and pushing their convictions into other people’s faces. What’s so hard to understand about that?

posted on August 9, 2009
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I don’t agree with the nurse being suspended.  All the patient had to say was a polite but firm “no”.  But, I do agree with the registrars being forced out of their jobs.  They were refusing to do their jobs properly, and also discriminating due to their unfound religious beliefs.

I would say that the UK is more secular than anything, and a lot of people who state a belief probably feel that way out of duty, and don’t really believe in god, more like Dennetts’ ‘belief in belief’.  Comments like this by Brown can only serve to cause problems, especially when the lunatic fringe of Islam etc get hold of it.

Finally, I think we have to be careful about how far we actually allow people to express their beliefs in public.  Wasn’t that precisely what the 19 hijackers were doing on 9/11?

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Two things wrong with this right out of the gate from the first paragraph.
Firstly, which traditional religious teachings is the good PM talking about?  The one about the right to kill a woman whose been raped based on the God given law that if she didn’t sufficiently scream loud enough to be heard society then has the duty to stone her to death?  (Must it still be stones even?)  Maybe he’d rather stick to the New Testament where it seems “value-based” to wish a Sodomite ending to any village that doesn’t feel the need to stop what they’re doing and follow Jesus. If he’s talking about the general stuff like be kind to others I suppose we might then say Britain is a Confucion or a Buddhist nation.
Secondly, I don’t think it’s even possible to have “private” beliefs (Wittgenstein shows this rather cleverly).  After all, any belief will usually have a behavioral consequence and goodness knows that whatever many Christians, Muslims, etc. believe is certainly manifested in their behaviour.
So for all practical purposes do not keep beliefs private but do understand that as long as they are out in the open, those of who do not share the belief will take the opportunity to assess said beliefs carefully but firmly.

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Do politicians even live in the same world we do?

Obama is going round saying America is NOT a Christian nation while 50+% of people believe Noah’s Ark was real and the Rapture is coming… 

while Brown is saying the UK IS a Christian nation while most Christians couldn’t care less about Christianity…

Of course Brown is correct, the head of state is the Queen who is also head of the Church Of England (kind of) and Parliament has daily prayers.

Vive la revolution.

incidentally, my captcha was church87 smile

posted on August 11, 2009
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