MARTIN: If your serious in understanding it all, it’s possible to do without a god in mind as your starting position because a god is not necessary.
Quantum fluctuations in a universe with zero energy can account for everything from nothing with the laws of physics as they stand.
If you have time, try watching Lawrence Krauss “A Universe from Nothing”, it’s long but helps explains a great deal.
Yup. I enjoyed listening to Krauss at teh Global Atheist Convention in Melbourne last month.
This hope of finding a gap for god by way of thermodynamics is so passe. It’s a shame theists don’t do a bit of reading before they come in here and try to use science to back thesism. It can’t be done. And it’s silly to try because all science is provisional and hitching ones theism to the latest science leaves ones theism open to being debunked with the next scientific advance.
Have faith in god(s) if you must but don’t bother trying to find evidence for your god with science. If there was evidence it would no longer be faith. And if there were evidence ahteists like me might change out minds. Yes, that’s right. Unlike theists we know what it would take to change our minds.