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Or, the fact that Islam is the spoiled brat of the religious world, and no one wants to deal with The Great Tantrum for calling them on their bullshit. How many concessions are made to/for countries who allow this kind of ideological censorship? No clue. Too many.
Anything happening yet, Rob? Anything on the news? It’s stuff like this that truly exposes religious (all religions) hypocrisy. Religions aren’t hi-jacked ... they jack people around. Makes me want to boot Mario and his God in the ass right out of here with my own foot.
Anything happening yet, Rob? Anything on the news? It’s stuff like this that truly exposes religious (all religions) hypocrisy. Religions aren’t hi-jacked ... they jack people around. Makes me want to boot Mario and his God in the ass right out of here with my own foot.
Now, now, An., remember, love thy brother; peace and goodwill…..
Thanks, Skip and Martin. I’ve made a donation. If anyone is feeling generous and can spare a little this is a great way to put our money where our mouths are.
We often wonder at the difficulties involved in getting atheists/humanists to act in concert. This is the sort of thing that should unite us. I haven’t heard back from Sam yet but I will continue to raise the issue wherever I can. An Indonesian prison is not a pretty place. Certaily no place for one of us. Alexander Aan is one of us.
And for those unfamiliar with Athiest Alliace International, AAI is a reputable organisation. I am now member. One of it’s main functions is to lobby internationally for greater freedom of conscience and the defense and expansion of human rights, especially for atheists and others who are oppressed by religious or other discrimination. Get behind it and Alexander Aan if you can.
Anything happening yet, Rob? Anything on the news? It’s stuff like this that truly exposes religious (all religions) hypocrisy. Religions aren’t hi-jacked ... they jack people around. Makes me want to boot Mario and his God in the ass right out of here with my own foot.
Hey, Answerer, yeah, I think what AAI is doing is great. It’s a practical idea aimed at a specific cause that we can all sympathise with.
And you’re right, Answerer, this sort of thing really does highlight bully-boy religious hypocrisy. Imagine, in order to get an ID card in Indonesia one has to choose one of the ‘approved’ religions. It’s fucking blackmail. Not a day goes by when I do not find more reasons to despise religion!
Die fröhliche Wissenschaft (Rob) - 26 January 2012 02:32 AM
Answerer - 23 January 2012 11:59 AM
Anything happening yet, Rob? Anything on the news? It’s stuff like this that truly exposes religious (all religions) hypocrisy. Religions aren’t hi-jacked ... they jack people around. Makes me want to boot Mario and his God in the ass right out of here with my own foot.
Hey, Answerer, yeah, I think what AAI is doing is great. It’s a practical idea aimed at a specific cause that we can all sympathise with.
And you’re right, Answerer, this sort of thing really does highlight bully-boy religious hypocrisy. Imagine, in order to get an ID card in Indonesia one has to choose one of the ‘approved’ religions. It’s fucking blackmail. Not a day goes by when I do not find more reasons to despise religion!
I don’t quite understand this. Seems to have grammatical errors. Sounds like they want to create a “free conversion market” of Atheists, provided the government recognizes them in the first place.
The Jesuit priest and philosopher noted that under Chapter 17, Paragraph 2, of the bill people can proclaiming their faith only to people who have not adopted a religion or who are atheists. “This is very problematic since the state has officially said that every Indonesian citizen is legally expected to adopt a particular religion,” Magnis said.
“Indonesia does not belong to any particular group, nor does it belong to the majority; it belongs to every Indonesian, regardless of their religiosity, or lack thereof. We should always remember this.”
Contrasted with (it pains me to write the name) Sarah Palin’s “Real Americans” divisiveness, which tends to stick in vicious and manifest ways. Too bad the subject of the article needs to write from the safety of a foreign country.
“Indonesia does not belong to any particular group, nor does it belong to the majority; it belongs to every Indonesian, regardless of their religiosity, or lack thereof. We should always remember this.”
Contrasted with (it pains me to write the name) Sarah Palin’s “Real Americans” divisiveness, which tends to stick in vicious and manifest ways. Too bad the subject of the article needs to write from the safety of a foreign country.
Even so, it almost holds out more hope for Indonesians than celebrity conservative politicians hold for Americans ... they don’t know what to do with it when they have it. The Founding Fathers giveth and the Sarah Palins taketh away.
