TheBrotherMario - 19 January 2012 05:13 AM

Rob, organic molecules not produced organically? As Hitchens liked to say—I rest my case.

If you can’t understand how organic molecules are chemically created, maybe you should read a book on organic chemistry?  If you “rest your case” on your own ignorant assumptions Mario, then no wonder you have trouble understanding the basics of biological evolution or the emergence of life. At least get the basics and that way you’ll be able to appreciate things that from your uneducated position appear too complex to understand.

TheBrotherMario - 19 January 2012 09:43 AM

“Modern language” is “English”? Modern language is an interpretation of the Bible with “thee” and “thou” replaced with “you” and “your”.

I’m starting to realize that Mike78 and GAD, and probably most of my “adversaries” on Project Reason, are basically uneducated and untalented.

Further proof of this is Stylo’s stupidity at not seeing the difference in degrees of knowledge, especially when this knowledge is pertaining to the existence of an invisible God. And, he got stuck like a broken record on a question that emphasizes this stupidity, all the while thinking (I’m sure) that he has discovered a contradiction in some personal scheme of mine.

Well…the realization of what it takes to become a proclaimed atheist is coming into full focus—i.e., my knowledge of just how ignorant atheists are, individually in their own personal lives, is reaching a higher degree.

Ha, ha, ha.  My apologies for being “ignorant.”  Your confabulation was even “stoopider” than I though it was, and has now given birth to yet another one.  I am now supposed to believe that what you meant was that you were unaware of the existence of bibles eschewing the use of “thee” and “thou” in favor of “you” and “your”?  Why did I not appreciate that such an exquisite little nugget of trivia would necessarily make its way into your story (ad hoc as it is) as a factor that would somehow add reliability (??!!) as opposed to being better explained by an ongoing fabrication?  How could I possibly have missed that a detail so infinitesmal and mundane would have prevented you from reaching for a bible sooner?  Of course, my ignorance is palpable.  Everybody knows bible novices numbered in the thousands and millions, knowing nothing of the language or contents of the good book until it was made a better book by the adoption of “modern language.”  The flood gates then opened and stampedes rushed toward bible shops to consume the new biblical food served (gulp) in the vernacular.  It was as if the bible had been (magically) converted into chicken fingers or, or, or macaroni and cheese.  It was no longer the brussel spouts of old, unpallatable to the point of leaving hordes totally ignorant and indifferent to the message of god.  Exciting!!!   

With the mist cleared from my eyes (thank god.  No . . . thank BM), this is how I now picture the improved confabulation.  I’m sure you’ll add a nother twist, so our collaboration will have to be by iterations.

BM thought to himself, “I love you god, and I always wanted to know something about that jesus kid of yours, but with all the “thees” and “thous,” I don’t know if I’m coming or going.”  God, ever listening to the ridiculously specific complaints of BM, then answered his prayer—not by manifesting a groovy new bible for BM out of thin air in “modern language,” but rather by shining light out of a picture of jesus at BM’s friend, who would bring just such a groovy bible over to BM’s house.  BM’s friend arrived at the door and said, “I have no idea what I’m doing here, but I think I should give you this bible.  It’s written in ‘modern language.’  By the way, I’m out of mescaline.”  BM was floored.  “What??!!!  You mean these things have existed in ‘modern language’ all this time and I didn’t know that precious detail that has prevented me from knowing god up to this point in the story?  My prayers are answered!  Bye, bye ‘thee,’ I’ll see ‘thee’ later.  I can finally start that new life with god, founded on ‘modern language.’  By the way, I’m out of mescaline too.”

can zen, “organic” molecules that are simple hydrocarbons are lesser than organic molecules that are the stuff of life. And they are not “organic” according to the first definition of organic. My insistence on using “organic” to reference these “greater” molecules is not simply old fashioned, but more correct. The two molecules are not the same and worlds apart. The attempt to speak about them in the same breath is an attempt to join these worlds together. It is an attempt to take down the greatness of a living molecule and lift up the smallness of an nonliving molecule. I’m not biting. You, I’m sure, take a leap of faith from amino acids to proteins without a second thought. But this leap demands more than a second thought—it demands outright skepticism that such a leap can be made…i.e., if you “understand” the science of it all.

The “primordial soup theory” has never come up from the bottom of the murky pond it was hatched in into the bright light of a working hypothesis.

But take heart. I believe that this theory is correct, except for one very important “element” left out of the picture.

Let’s all say it together—The “touch” of God! Yay!...Now wasn’t that fun and freeing?

TheBrotherMario - 19 January 2012 10:48 AM

Let’s all say it together—The “touch” of God! Yay!...Now wasn’t that fun and freeing?

So right there between an amino acid and a string of amino acids, is the hand of god! Amazing!

BM,

Further proof of this is Stylo’s stupidity at not seeing the difference in degrees of knowledge, especially when this knowledge is pertaining to the existence of an invisible God. And, he got stuck like a broken record on a question that emphasizes this stupidity, all the while thinking (I’m sure) that he has discovered a contradiction in some personal scheme of mine.

Aw, shucks. Just so I have this straight…rather than answer a simple question, you choose to insult me for asking? Now that is the hallmark of true spirituality. Your refusal to answer the question is accepted, thank you.

You’re very welcome (and deserving).

And, the fact that you STILL don’t realize that I DID answer it, makes you stupider still.

can zen - 19 January 2012 11:28 AM

TheBrotherMario - 19 January 2012 10:48 AM

Let’s all say it together—The “touch” of God! Yay!...Now wasn’t that fun and freeing?

So right there between an amino acid and a string of amino acids, is the hand of god! Amazing!

He saw that spark on the Sistene Chapel. Mario is such a spiritual fraud. His whole life is a mimicry of other religious characters and religious symbolism. It’s not real and he’s frustrated that he can’t convince anyone on either side so he separates himself from both. Mario ... God’s chosen One ... what a laugh!

So I’m “angry”, and apparently everything bad in the universe, because I call someone a nincompoop and refute a few people’s crappy ideas (including Campbell’s hilarious “parameters”). But the individuals who resort to a campaign of persistent lashing out, involving some of the most extreme and below-the-belt personal insults, are supposed to be “not angry”? I don’t get it. Someone join the dots.

JayD - 21 January 2012 07:12 AM

So I’m “angry”, and apparently everything bad in the universe, because I call someone a nincompoop and refute a few people’s crappy ideas (including Campbell’s hilarious “parameters”). But the individuals who resort to a campaign of persistent lashing out, involving some of the most extreme and below-the-belt personal insults, are supposed to be “not angry”? I don’t get it. Someone join the dots.

I guess if you don’t get it by now you are never going to get it.

But I’ll try one last time. Stop being so arrogant. If you have sonemthing to say then say it but do it in a way that does not offend or belittle others. Try to show a bit of respect. If you don’t then people here will be down on you like a ton of bricks every time.

JayD - 21 January 2012 07:12 AM

nincompoop ...people’s crappy ideas (including Campbell’s hilarious “parameters”).

It is this sort of thing that has characterised your posts from the outset and peopel (rightly IMO) get their back up.