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I saw a Buddhist Monk @Walmart:
Posted: 03 October 2010 07:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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J Kapp - 02 October 2010 08:17 AM

No, it was a male nun in asheville; also one of the like 5 counties to openly elect an atheist to a government position.

Found something interesting while looking into that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Bothwell

Following the election, opponents of Bothwell, including H. K. Edgerton, a former president of the Asheville NAACP, challenged his election because the North Carolina Constitution does not allow for atheists to hold public office in the state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina_Constitution#Infeasible_Provisions

Article 6, section 8 disqualifies from office any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God.

The U.S. Constitution trumps it, but still…

WHAT THE ****.  I can’t believe I live in such a state.  That’s ridiculous.  Is this only my state that has such a ridiculous “provision”?!?!

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Posted: 03 October 2010 07:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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W. Collins - 03 October 2010 05:17 AM
J Kapp - 02 October 2010 08:17 AM

No, it was a male nun in asheville; also one of the like 5 counties to openly elect an atheist to a government position.

Found something interesting while looking into that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Bothwell

Following the election, opponents of Bothwell, including H. K. Edgerton, a former president of the Asheville NAACP, challenged his election because the North Carolina Constitution does not allow for atheists to hold public office in the state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina_Constitution#Infeasible_Provisions

Article 6, section 8 disqualifies from office any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God.

The U.S. Constitution trumps it, but still…

WHAT THE ****.  I can’t believe I live in such a state.  That’s ridiculous.  Is this only my state that has such a ridiculous “provision”?!?!

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Posted: 17 October 2010 08:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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AnthonyMichaelAngelo - 27 September 2010 04:27 PM

Fully decked out in the attire, waiting online waiting to pay, wearing a pink blue-tooth headset on his right ear.  This was in a Honolulu, HI venue that is.

For someone who claims the physical world is an illusion, teaches non-attachment and the such similar things, wouldn’t these types of material objects seem worthless/needless for someone who has achieved ‘monk status’?

You have not said anything to indicate what sect this person was in, if indeed this was actually a monk (I have seen an insane person dressing as a monk, though his behavior very quickly indicated that he was not).  Might have even been a Hare Krishna, for that matter.

Some monks do use modern technology; some have and maintain websites and blogs on the internet was well.


The idea or claim that “the physical world is an illusion” is not a Buddhist tenet, i.e., it was not taught or proclaimed by the man we call “the Buddha”.  I am aware that some folks who call themselves Buddhist proclaim this, but that is a product of the influence of other worldviews, probably Advaita Vedanta and Hinduism.  The tibetan religions are rather notorious, particularly, for making this claim, but they represent probably the poorest assimilation of the Buddha’s teachings into any culture, poor enough to justify not recognizing them as being actually “Buddhist”.


Monks who strictly follow the Buddha’s instructions for monks (the Vinaya) would not be in line at Wal-Mart, as they are not allowed to touch money. There are some who do, probably many, but there are very few Buddhist monks (limited mostly to the Theravada Thai Forest tradition) who strictly follow the Vinaya anymore.

If the person you saw was a Zen priest rather than a monk, he might even be married and have children. 

I recall some sect making the news after giving in and allowing their monks to watch the World Cup a few years ago, under the stipulation that they were forbidden to enjoy the game.  Kinda silly, I thought….

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Posted: 17 October 2010 10:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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J Kapp - 28 September 2010 02:04 PM

Especially the “physical world is an illusion”; more appropriately it’s the contingency of the world, i.e. the fleeting nature of things. 

The point the Buddha had to make which is often misinterpreted as a declaration of the physical world being an “illusion” is this: We see (perceive)  the world “through our own eyes”—i.e., through fallible senses (including, in the case of Eastern thought, the “sense” of the mind), and thus are always in danger of misinterpreting what we perceive and acting unskillfully and/or inappropriately based upon misinterpretations we generate about the world around us (as well as the “inner world” of our thoughts, perceptions, emotions, etc, which also factor greatly into our perception of the world and what it is like).

I mentioned in another thread here that the Buddha provided methods to get “from here to there” with respect to ethics and moral behavior.  The above is part of the theory that supports this “getting from here to there”. It is aimed at reducing and (ideally) eradicating our tendency to make false assumptions and generate bad expectations about the world—i.e., whatever we experience, especially in our interactions with others. It is aimed squarely at reducing and/or eliminating distorted thinking.

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Posted: 17 October 2010 10:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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W. Collins - 03 October 2010 05:17 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina_Constitution#Infeasible_Provisions

Article 6, section 8 disqualifies from office any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God.

We will never evolve.

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Posted: 17 October 2010 01:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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Posted: 17 October 2010 02:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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Saw this, too, the last line is a monk talking about his experience while shopping in Wal-Mart:

http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/homepage/x1613198469

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