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      <title>World&#8217;s Most Intelligent Beggar</title>
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      <published>2013-06-16T06:12:15Z</published>
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        <p><a href="http://www.project-reason.org/?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fpics.urduwire.com%2Ffun-entertainment%2Fthe-world-s-most-intelligent-beggar-funny-picture%2F">http://pics.urduwire.com/fun-entertainment/the-world-s-most-intelligent-beggar-funny-picture/</a></p>
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      <title>Dying as a humanist&#8212;making my wishes clear, avoiding God talk.</title>
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      <published>2012-07-21T14:26:50Z</published>
      <updated>2012-11-08T07:01:08Z</updated>
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        <p><i>Administrator’s note: </p>

<p>Zkwest (Ken) first appeared back in May in the projects forum suggesting an effort to raise awareness of the need to “update” the medico’s attitude about religion and the end of life. It is here… </p>

<p><a href="http://www.project-reason.org/?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.project-reason.org%2Fforum%2Fviewthread%2F24321%2F">http://www.project-reason.org/forum/viewthread/24321/</a> </p>

<p>This thread is a long conversation over the months that follows his long battle with both the disease inside him and the attitudes around him. We haven’t heard from him in a while but we&#8217;re told that nothing final has happened. </p>



<p></i></p>

<p><br />
I am dying of pancreatic cancer&#8212;the God squad is out in full force, in the chemo room, with my friends, a the store.</p>

<p>when I told my friend this weekend that when I die, I am dead.&nbsp; Nothing. Nada. No spirit, no re-incarnation, etc.&nbsp; I found as I did in the hospital after surgery, to say I am a naturalist (I do not like atheist as a term it smacks of a religion), is to have violated some social rule of significant magnitude.</p>

<p>The number of religious people in medicine, stun me.&nbsp; One doctor after talking about my options said something like: Get good with&#8230;and point up.&nbsp; I was tempted to say &#8220;Homeland security?&#8221;&nbsp; But resisted the temptation to be my normal smart ass self..</p>

<p>But there should be somewhere that I could celebrate the mystery and joy of being here.<br />
 I have had a good run.&nbsp; I was hoping for more (ah capitalism) but this is how it is going to go.</p>

<p>I find little support for dying as an person who thinks all this god talk, religion talk is irrelevant, boring, and a waste of time.&nbsp; (Do not misunderstand me, I am scared of these people&#8212;right now some of the atheist groups are taking almost as crazy as the religious groups.)</p>
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      <title>Who owns the future&#63; a book by Jarod Lanier discussion</title>
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      <published>2013-06-08T11:09:14Z</published>
      <updated>2013-06-08T11:12:40Z</updated>
      <author><name>richiemobile</name></author>
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        <p>A new book by Jaron Lanier outlines that <br />
with  &#8220;silicon valley&#8221; we are in the midst of something like the &#8220;tulip frenzy&#8221; of a couple hundred years<br />
ago when the value of tulip bulbs amped up so much in Holland,that people gave away Houses for <br />
a few bushels of them.</p>

<p>Here is a review his new book from the New York Times..</p>

<p><a href="http://www.project-reason.org/?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2013%2F05%2F06%2Fbooks%2Fwho-owns-the-future-by-jaron-lanier.html%3F_r%3D0">http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/06/books/who-owns-the-future-by-jaron-lanier.html?_r=0</a></p>

<p>Here is an interview with Mr Lanier on the subject of his book:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.project-reason.org/?URL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dj71nj07p_7s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j71nj07p_7s</a></p>

<p>On a bit of a snarky level, Mr. Lanier may not have grokked (tapped into)<br />
the technology trend of radical life extension coming out of the Singulitarian-Transhumanist<br />
movement down the road in San Jose at the old Moffett Field, (Now Singularity University)<br />
or he would be in better shape at this point. Of course, that could all change quickly.<br />
I hope it does.&nbsp; He is such a creative and inventive person.</p>

<p>As always, I could be wrong.</p>

<p>r.</p>
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    <entry>
      <title>RELIGION &#45; Bedtime Stories for an Infant Species</title>
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      <published>2013-06-04T09:58:23Z</published>
      <updated>2013-06-04T10:14:45Z</updated>
      <author><name>unsmoked</name></author>
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        <p>I think modern species of frogs have been around for at least 50 million years, so it seems reasonable to call our own species, Homo sapiens, an infant species.&nbsp; What&#8217;s the latest estimate of our tenure here?&nbsp; 100 thousand years?&nbsp; Frogs have been here 500 times longer?</p>

<p>The topic title should probably read, &#8216;RELIGION - BEDTIME STORIES FOR AN INFANT <b>SELF-CONSCIOUS</b> SPECIES&#8217;.</p>

<p>I suspect that what we call <i>the will to live</i> evolved with self-consciousness into fear of death and the will (desire) to live forever.&nbsp; It seems to me that religion evolved to assuage that fear, telling us bedtime stories so that we could fall asleep like a child listening to their favorite fairy tales, or other fictions.</p>

<p>Notice how many religious stories resemble children&#8217;s stories about magic and miracles, angels, fairies and all kinds of supernatural events.&nbsp; In your opinion how long will this phase of our evolution last?&nbsp; How long will we need this balm of Gilead?&nbsp; (with all the attendant ills and calamities that come when the collective mind is caught up in fictions, the illusions they inspire, and the deadly conflicts that break out with competing bedtime stories).</p>

<p><b>balm of Gilead  2  :&nbsp; </b>&nbsp; an agency that soothes, relieves, or heals  -&nbsp; (Webster)</p>
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    <entry>
      <title>Is $ the Religion of our time&#63;</title>
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      <published>2013-06-07T09:09:36Z</published>
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        <p>So it strikes me that the most mysterious, and controlled information of any<br />
society is the most &#8220;sought after&#8221; and if one takes Paul Tillich&#8217;s definition<br />
of religion as &#8220;Ultimate Concern&#8221; The human invention of money certainly is<br />
on a lot of peoples minds these days.</p>

<p>Originally money was a convenience, a way for humans to allocate and trade<br />
things and store the resources of that trading in a concentrated form.<br />
What has now happened is that there are almost unfathomable disparities<br />
between how much some have accumulated and what others strive and struggle<br />
for every day.<br />
The whole 99 percent discussion in the west, and of course the cliche of people<br />
billions living on less than $1 a day.</p>

<p>Some say, that the information revolution will help solve this, by turning wealth<br />
into an electronic entity that is so cheap and efficient, you can buy a melon<br />
on the streets of Lagos, Nairobi, and pay it with your earnings on selling tomatoes<br />
earlier in the day on the same cell phone.</p>

<p>What do you think?&nbsp; Has $ achieved the status of a &#8220;religion&#8221;.</p>
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      <title>Fun and Interactive &#45; Here is Today.</title>
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      <published>2013-05-30T08:37:22Z</published>
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      <author><name>Jefe</name></author>
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        <p><a href="http://www.project-reason.org/?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fhereistoday.com%2F">http://hereistoday.com/</a></p>
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    <entry>
      <title>Master&#8217;s thesis on Four Horsemen</title>
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      <published>2013-06-05T06:49:16Z</published>
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        <p>Hey everyone,</p>

<p>A few months ago, I wrote to ask if anyone had advice on research on the New Atheism for my master&#8217;s thesis in history on the Four Horsemen. Some of you asked me to post again when I was done writing. Now I am. </p>

<p>I have looked to place the Four Horsemen ideas and arguments into a contemporary sociopolitical context. You can read the essay here:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.project-reason.org/?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fissuu.com%2Fdanielnord%2Fdocs%2Fdaniel_nord_masters_thesis_final2%2F1">http://issuu.com/danielnord/docs/daniel_nord_masters_thesis_final2/1</a></p>

<p><br />
Cheers,</p>

<p>Daniel</p>
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    <entry>
      <title>IMAGINE</title>
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      <published>2013-06-02T07:16:50Z</published>
      <updated>2013-06-02T07:32:37Z</updated>
      <author><name>Die fröhliche Wissenschaft (Rob)</name></author>
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        <p>Suspend disbelief for a moment and imagine that tomorrow when we wake up we have, unbeknownst to us, been visited by an extra-terrestrial civilisation. ET has wiped humanity’s memory clean of religion. We’ve forgotten our Hail Marys, speaking in tongues and snake handling never existed and from the minaret the Mezarin no longer calls the faithful to prayer.&nbsp; ET also did a bit of town planning and civil engineering while we slept and where there were once churches and mosques and temples there are now public gardens, Wal-Mart’s and market places. Bibles and Korans disappear without our noticing. In short, we now inhabit a world without religion or any memory of it.&nbsp; After this visitation ET disappears never to return.</p>

<p>It could happen this way. Or maybe the world’s wheat and rice crops are globally infected with ergot and a humanity-wide religious amnesia ensues and we think cathedrals and mosques are bars and brothels. The cause doesn’t matter.&nbsp; The fact is we wake up tomorrow without religion.</p>

<p>How will the world be post-religion? Will we implode in an orgy of rape, murder and mayhem? Would the sort of basic morality that most humans adhere to – don’t kill innocent people, don’t steal, don’t fuck your daughters etc – disappear globally?</p>

<p>Or would we all fall back on an inherited, pre-religious evolutionary morality residing in our genes; a moral instinct akin to the language instinct we have inherited and which becomes apparent when a group whose members all speak mutually incomprehensible languages are isolated together and yet manage to communicate?</p>

<p> <br />
Would we be able to negotiate the moral landscape successfully without religion?</p>
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    <entry>
      <title>Religion is a work in Progress&#8230;Malleable over time and here&#8217;s why.</title>
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      <published>2013-05-31T05:56:59Z</published>
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        <p>So, although I consider myself culturally Christian, I am acutely aware that what<br />
that means changes over time.<br />
I had surgery a few months ago to repair a hernia, and since I had listed myself<br />
as Christian on the hospital intake form, a Protestant female Pastor came into<br />
the surgical waiting room. <br />
I had a conversation with her about the &#8220;changeability&#8221; of Christianity.<br />
I said 120 years ago, you couldn&#8217;t exist.&nbsp; There would be no church sending<br />
a woman Pastor to a man&#8217;s surgical suite.&nbsp; I said, and if you think the Church&#8217;s<br />
are having a bit of a time adjusting to gay marraige, wait until people want<br />
to marry their robot.</p>

<p>My point, obviously, that Religion is based on the information available at the time.<br />
The drafters of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus et al, could not possibly have known that<br />
the Universe is approximately 17 Billion years old, and the earth between 4.5 and 5.0<br />
Billion.&nbsp; That we have evolved from coacervates, formations of cells in a warm primordial<br />
soup in the abundant earth Oceans.</p>

<p>For the most part, Religions will remain critical to us, because they are a connection to<br />
our past, what our forefathers learned, observed and can &#8220;takeaway&#8221; from their existence<br />
on earth.</p>

<p>My father was a Christian Pastor (now deceased), and it wasn&#8217;t until his 80s that he finally admitted<br />
that I might know things he did not, simply because of the later date of my birth, and the<br />
availability of more information to my generation.</p>

<p>An interesting fact, and support of my &#8220;work in progress&#8221; is the fact that the Papacy paid for<br />
and owns a fairly sophisticated telescope high in the mountains of Arizona, to make sure they<br />
don&#8217;t make the &#8220;Copernican-Galileo&#8221; mistake again.</p>

<p>There is a quiet branch of Islamists online trying to implement gay rights within Islam,<br />
I kid you not.</p>

<p>Anyway, you get my point.&nbsp; Religion will always be with us, because it helped give birth to us,<br />
but for the most part these days, I am a transhumanist Singulitarian, and I believe we do<br />
need to colonize Mars, because the reality is we have only 3 to 5 Billion years left until<br />
the Sun will either Super Nova or collapse into a black hole, at which point this planet<br />
is astronomical history.&nbsp; We had best be on our way to some younger galaxies by then,<br />
or baby, our stay in the Universe will become a footnote in some other species archaelogical<br />
note books.</p>

<p><br />
As always, I could be wrong.</p>

<p>r.</p>
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    <entry>
      <title>The worst of Christianity</title>
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      <published>2013-06-01T05:41:24Z</published>
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      <author><name>Epaminondas</name></author>
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        <p>What is worse for society, fundamental Catholicism or fundamental Protestantism?</p>

<p>Probably a tough choice right?</p>
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