tell a teen what they should not do and it may mean that they will do it in spite of the should not do thinking and warning from their parents.

intelligence may be shouldless thinking

very difficult to attain

palin is treated as a hero by the right wing because of her daughters baby being born before marriage

she still preaches just say no to sex before marriage in spite of the personal evidence that it did not work.

that is the power of the human mind in spite of the evidence we hang on to our cherished beliefs

but every one thinks they have a rational and reasoning mind ie everyone.

religious teachings often have the opposite effects intended

look at eve tell her not to eat from the tree of knowledge and what did she do

been downhill every since.

without eve eating from the tree of knowledge there would be no us just isness

now who can define isness?????????

posted on September 25, 2009
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researcher, you certainly have a way of saying something. I’m not always sure what it is, but it’s definately something. Or nothing.

I’ve heard of the findings in this study before but never complete with the numbers to back them up. This appears to refute without question the main arguments from the godlies: 1) that income is the main factor and not religion, and 2) that abortion rates are not disclosed and therefore are not included in the final analysis.

I am glad for the findings of this statistical study in that there may be a chance it will make pro-abstinence/wait-until-marriage advocates rethink their entire philosophy (yeah, I know). But at the same time, it makes me very sad. These numbers aren’t just numbers - they’re children. Many, many children. The religious right needs to remember that and work towards real solutions, not bullshit agendas.

I would like to see Palin given a copy of this study (then supplied with a person of normal intelligence to explain it to her) and collect her thought.

posted on September 26, 2009
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Many right-wing religious people are lamenting the emergence of islam in Europe. Secular people aren’t having children, the argument goes, so islamic immigrants with big families will soon take over.

To counter-act this development, it may be fair to assume that the religious right in America would like to see more Christian babies in the world. So maybe their daughters getting inadvertently pregnant is a blessing in disguise?

posted on September 27, 2009
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Kenneth, if that is the case then there is a major flaw in their thinking. I can personally attest that a child born to a religious family is not necessarily going to turn out religious. My mother had 4 children. 1 of them is Christian. 2 of them are in prison. And one of them is out-and-proud atheist.

I think the fact is that if a teenage girl is afraid to ask her mother for frank advice on birth control, or is afraid of her prying mother finding condoms or birth control pills in her purse, then she is going to go without those protections. My own mother was upset with me in my youth when she once found a box of tampons in my bedroom (because “nice girls don’t use them”). I can only imagine how she would have felt if I asked her to take me to Planned Parenthood.

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Leaps, I agree with you entirely, on your every point.

I was merely being sarcastic.

posted on September 29, 2009
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